myfirstamplifier
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2023-01-13 10:09 pm
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- 2023-01-13 10:09 pm
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Hi Guys,
After building a small HV power supply regulated power supply to eventually build a tube preamp chassis to couple to my Aleph J. I found out it might be a better idea to ask some questions before I move to a pre-amplifier circuit choice.
Currently, I drive my homebuilt Aleph J from an IPhone 5. I know its dated but it sounds good to me and seems to measure well into low impedance loads:
https://www.kenrockwell.com/apple/iphone-5/audio-quality.htm
Using high quality 320k mp3 I found that I need to keep the volume at 80-100% or a room filling sound with the Aleph J and generally its not really loud enough and a real Eureka moment came when a friend brought is Sony headphone amplifier over and plugged it in and WOW it really came alive.
I started looking into the specs of the Aleph J:
Input Impedance 242 Kohms (RCA input)
Input for 25 watts output 1.5 volts
Is that 1.5 volts RMS or peak-to-peak?
I already put some time to build up a chassis with R-CORE transformer with a HV and LV regulator board for this circuit thinking it would be appropriate but then I re-read Aleph J specs and its input impedance is over double of that stated by this design (100K vs 242K). What should I do now lol?
This was recommended in the RCA Radiotron design guide in the 60's as a 12AU7 preamp design. I wanted to use 12AU7 specifically for this because I was gifted about 30 NOS 6189W tubes from a retired military technician, all in original boxes. Is it still a viable design to use with the Aleph J or other amp designs? If not, what preamp design is best coupled with Aleph J? I already built the HV/LV power supply and really want to use the tubes I was gifted. Any suggestions or ideas is really appreciated!
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Dennis Hui
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2023-01-13 10:15 pm
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- 2023-01-13 10:15 pm
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1.5V RMS
2023-01-13 10:16 pm
#3
- 2023-01-13 10:16 pm
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https://www.diyaudio.com/community/...the-diya-store-register-your-interest.390509/
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2023-01-13 11:29 pm
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- 2023-01-13 11:29 pm
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This might work for you...
https://diyaudioprojects.com/Tubes/ECC802S-ECC82-12AU7-Tube-SRPP-Preamp/
I want to try this one, posted recently....
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/...c85-6922-6dj8-etc-mu-follower-or-srpp.388295/
codyt
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2023-01-13 11:41 pm
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- 2023-01-13 11:41 pm
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Will you continue to use the iPhone as a source in front of a new pre, or would you invest in a DAC too? Knowing what your source’s voltage could help inform your decision.
If you want to stick with tubes, John Broskie has several great sounding designs/boards(SRPP w/ 12AU7 is my fav). If your source outputs the typical 2v RMS, you could really get by with a buffer, be it tube or solid state.
My vote is the Iron Pre that ZM linked above. Has options to set gain, and you could even run it as a buffer if you don’t need the gain.
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codyt
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2023-01-14 3:58 pm
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- 2023-01-14 3:58 pm
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Forgot to include the Broskie link: https://glass-ware.stores.yahoo.net/listheam.html
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PJN
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2023-01-14 5:34 pm
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- 2023-01-14 5:34 pm
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I found that I needed a preamp with a decent amount of gain to drive my aleph j properly. Any of the afor mentioned recommendations would work very well.
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stretchneck
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2024-01-31 9:47 pm
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- 2024-01-31 9:47 pm
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So I knew I’d end up building an Aleph J at some point… 😀
Q. Preamp, buffer or DAC direct?
Source (DAC)
SE 1.4vrms out, 200ohms output impedance
Bal 2.8vrms out, 100ohms output impedance
Speakers at 8ohm, 93dB sensitivity.
I kinda like DAC direct, no preamp, but only if the gain structure lets me achieve 70-90dB over the top >70% of digital volume control. I never really exceed 90dB.
I would have thought DAC direct would work as the input impedance is almost 250kOhm on Aleph J, but other people suggest not?
Would welcome advice.
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2024-01-31 9:58 pm
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- 2024-01-31 9:58 pm
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if source is having proper cojones and there is no puny volpot inserted, nothing wrong driving J directly
Mikerodrig27
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2024-01-31 10:33 pm
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- 2024-01-31 10:33 pm
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Stretchneck, what DAC do you have?
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stretchneck
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2024-02-01 5:48 am
#11
- 2024-02-01 5:48 am
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PS audio directstream
A
2024-02-03 8:12 am
#12
- 2024-02-03 8:12 am
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Mojo2 dac running off battery makes my AJ sing like a angel
2024-02-03 1:23 pm
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- 2024-02-03 1:23 pm
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Zen Mod said:
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/...the-diya-store-register-your-interest.390509/
Yup, my setup! Sounds spectacular
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